Thursday, 1 December 2016

CHRISTMAS, THE GREAT LIE

SUNRISE

In a few weeks billions of people around the world will be celebrating Christmas on December 25th, others will celebrate the same event on January 6th.
Unfortunately neither of the two dates are correct and the theologians and other church administrators have gone along with this great lie rather than rock the boat.

There is definitely a great deal of uncertainty in regard to this topic with suggested dates ranging from late March to April 3rd, 7th, 17th, 20th, 21st, whilst others think it might well be in August or even September.
What they do all agree upon is that Christmas and the birth of Jesus is definitely not on December 25th.


There is an uncertainty in regard to the year of Jesu’s birth, was it 8 B.C.E. or 4 B.C.E. ?
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI says that there is an error in the calculations of Dionysius Exiguus, a 6th century monk.  Exiguus, who is considered the inventor of the Christian calendar, “made a mistake in his calculations by several years. The actual date of Jesus’ birth was several years before.”

Benedict explains that the Gospel of Matthew claimed that the birth of Jesus was in the time of Herod the Greats’ rule in Judea, however, given that Herod died in 4 B.C. Jesus must have been born earlier than Exiguus originally documented. 

In earlier times the Romans celebrated Saturnalia, a week long period between December 17th and the 25th.

The Celts also celebrated. For them the deep darkness of Winter Solstice, 21st December, was important, followed by the immediate rebirth of the Sun and the lengthening hours of daylight.

So to whom do we attribute the great misnomer to? 

The Sun surrounds Jesus


I suggest that it was none other than the Roman Emperor Constantine, a Pagan who married Sun worship with Christianity.
The Sun became the Son. 

Emperor Constantine constructed a single canon with the connivence of Christian leaders to help him unify the remains of the Roman Empire. 
Until this time Christian authorities could not decide which books would be considered "holy" and thus "the word of God" and which ones would be excluded. 

By bribing the leaders of the Church the "word of God" was voted into existence at the Council of Nicaea. These "holy" scriptures were not completed until the Council of Trent, 1,238 years later, when the Catholic Church pronounced the Canon closed. 

So it appears that the approving editor of the Bible was not God.
The process began with Constantine and it is him we have to thank for the Christianised midwinter celebration which will see millions of people awaiting the birth of the ‘Son’.



The Sun entering the chamber at Newgrange
in Co. Meath


In our home we recognise the rebirth of the Sun, the growth of light and the start of a new cycle in nature.
What does this time of the year mean to you, how will you celebrate ?

32 comments:

  1. I'm not sure that the actual date matters one halfpenny. If one is a Christian and wishes to celebrate the birth of Christ then surely any day is as good as another. On a point of detail the 25 December is summer for the southern hemisphere and if one is on the equator then the season hardly matters. Presumably if you live in, say, New Zealand your life cycle would be quite different so far as dates are concerned.

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    1. Absolutely I agree with you about the southern hemisphere. You seem to have missed the point that it is the church
      that have set the date and not the people.
      Thank you for the comment.

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    2. Surely who sets the date is irrelevant. The actual date (assuming Jesus existed and I accept that a person of that ilk existed despite me being an atheist) is surely unknown. As no one knows the date it doesn't matter who purports to set it. If it was left to 'the people' it would never be agreed anyway. It is celebrated by Christians on different days and my question is simply whether it matters on what date it is celebrated.

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    3. Many people truly believe that Jesus' birthday is on 25th and so it is interesting to uncover the facts behind the story. I'd agree it doesn't really matter, however on a purely human level having a celebration that includes gathering with family and friends at the darkest time of the year (in the Northern Hemisphere) is life affirming and important to people.

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    4. I agree that it is important to many people as a family gathering time Heron. I think, though, that more and more it is simply a commercial time.

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    5. Thank you for your comment Graham and I agree with you too about the commercial side of the event and the sad thing is that a lot of people will get into debt.

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  2. Go with the SAturnalia and other pre Christian Pagan Festivals. Doesn't matter to me whether Jesus was born on the 35th of Zog

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    1. ZOG - oh right yes ... thank you for your comment Simon.

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  3. Beautiful header. It means a time of love and good will and also a way to make my children and grandchildren happy. A time to make memories for my family.

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    1. Thank you Donna - do I take it that the date and the religious significance is not important to you ?

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    2. Yes, that is what I thought and neither am I :-)

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  4. Being a non-Christian Heron, I only celebrate the Christmas period as a time when my family can get together and enjoy one another's company.

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    1. Thank you Pat I understand what you have said.

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  5. Socially, I agree with Pat. My family decided a couple decades ago that December 25 had become a commercialized, retail holiday. We decided to celebrate The Winter Holiday of Your Choice and gather on or around the solstice as it fits our many schedules. Personally, I feel a connection with cultures past in spending Long Night in contemplation of the cycle that represents death and rebirth. No, I don't mean reincarnation, but continuation of life.

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    1. Thank you for taking part in this discussion Carol and I agree with you and your perspective.

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  6. JACK L in Canada said:

    I just wanted to comment how much I enjoyed your information and comments on A Heron's View. In particular I think it is of the utmost importance that people live who out their faith and belief in any doctrine should at least have some exactitude in the correct days and times?? Ask any good Christian how many days it took for God to create the earth and they'll say six and a day of rest....they don't say well, I think it was five..or maybe no, I think it was eight !! Oh it really doesn't matter... well, cause God created it anyway !! I don't think the good Christian would go along with this.,

    The ancient people who build Newgrange worked in their own era with precision and a level of knowledge which astounds and impresses today...because exact and precise information was necessary ! I would use the example of astrology, and the degree to the minute, of the movement of the planetary motions, the ancient Druids and Indigenous peoples knew of the exact timing of the planets, Sun and Moon as well. This knowledge was completely necessary in every facet of their life.......'oh, good enough.." wasn't good enough then and it shouldn't be now. We can all make mistakes but why does the church (and its infallibility) keep promulgating known untruths and lies...because that was what their foundations were made from, and still is today. The quest and maintenance of Power doesn't want to publicly admit to mistakes, otherwise their infallibility goes out the window, along with their 'take' on how they think the world should turn.

    Each living thing in the world, trees, birds..whatever, reproduces itself on precise, and exacting replicas of cellular growth driven by DNA..surely as humans we too can strive to repeat what truly 'is there'.....not what we want to be believe is there. The historical evidence that I you have uncovered in your scholarship would make for great critical reading..and stimulated thinking, and go a long ways in educating today's.people in a world beset by so many problems.

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    1. Thank you for your comprehensive comments Jack which I completely agree with my friend.

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  7. love the fact that Newgrange is part of your argument, a time when the sun and moon dictated the season and festival. As an atheist, Xmas means a whirlwind of baubles and trees, but because we all have family we celebrate it on that particular date. It is of course the church dictating dates as it makes the dates of saints as well. Regulation of a faith nothing more.

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    1. Thank you for your comment Thelma.
      The sun does of course dictate the seasons and the temperature and that is fact.
      I see no reason why an atheist should use a term that is religious to denote their family gathering ?

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  8. How interesting, Mel! I've read quite a bit about the way the church 'married' its festivals to pagan festivals too. Easter is another example! Have you ever read Holy Blood, Holy Grail https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Blood-Grail-ebook/dp/B00BU6URHE/ It also has some fascinating insights into Church history.

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    1. Thank you Val I read that book long ago, it seems like aeons now :-)

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  9. Hi Mel - I'm afraid I go with the flow ... understanding life has changed, people have changed, the seasons and the land not so much ... unless we go into millions of years ago. I prefer to reflect and enjoy the world as it might have been ... peaceful, comforting and generous in its support of life ...

    Cheers Hilary

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    1. You know Hilary I think that every individual has the right to make their own life choices and so good luck to you on yours.

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  10. Being non religious the date doesnt really matter to me or how it was decided, for our family it is a time to spend time together, to watch the young herons face light up with joy at the wonders of this time of year from the natural wonder or crunchy frost on grass to the sparkling christmas lights in our town! I never truly appreciated the magic of christmas or whatever festival you celebrate at this time of year until i saw it through my childs eyes .... In a way that is all that matters for the moment, his joy & wonder. As time goes on i guess that will change but for now we will embrace the magic of christmas x

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    1. Well thank you for sharing your perspective Snappy

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  11. HV, controversial topic for you? :) I applaud..

    It would seem that several of the pre-Christian/Roman/Egyptian deities (Mithra, Dionysus, Adonis for example) were born of virgins on or around December 25th, so maybe the Christians were just doing their usual trick of hijacking existing traditions, ceremonies or rituals so as not to upset the incumbents too much and smooth their transition to Worldly power? As for the Sun, since there are at least 100 billion stars just like it in our galaxy alone, a solstice would seem a rather commonplace event, still, any excuse for a slap-up lunch and a few slurps of something warming get's my vote!

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    1. Thank you for the comments Steve. If you were to scroll through all my blog posts you would find several controversial blog posts as I do try to provoke awareness and discussion.
      As to the billions of stars in our galaxy I agree with you however, it is the closest stars which have the greatest effect on our earthly existence and our Sun does exactly that.
      What really gets up my nose and irritates me is the utter twaddle and sentimentalism that is trotted out at this time of the year... and oh' yes I am all for a good feed and a few slurps eight or nine times a year :-)

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  12. This time of year, we spend it with family and friends. For us it has absolutely nothing to do with religion or the date. Growing up in a Catholic family and going to a parochial school religion was front and center. After moving and being on my own, I do not have anything to do with religion. My family and I have a peaceful time enjoying ourselves and our friends during this season.
    Thanks for stopping by my blog.

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    1. Likewise Bill thank you for the comment :-)

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  13. Dear Mel, I won't get into any deeper discussions on the biblical kanon and theological issues otherwise, but to me as a christian the exact dates really are not the most important. It's true that we converted some pagan rituals, but as I see it God only put things right. People have sensed a presence other than their own for as long as they have existed, hence all these rituals and sacred places such as those you visit. Christmas is tricky, not much historical notes to go on, we lean on traditions and vague facts, true, but traditions handled from generation to generation also provides a solid base. God acts through many channels. Easter is more accurate since the jewish easter is dated properly.
    I celebrate this time of year as a time to slow down and think things over, ponder on the need of light and the darkness lurking. I also let the gospel speak to me about hope, grace and love. If I don't know the exact date for the worlds creation or the birth of Jesus, it's not crucial for my faith. I agree with some here that the season has been commersialized and it makes me feel sick really. From late october merchants and magazines tells about the perfect christmas, the perfect family, the perfect baking and cooking and decorating, the homemade sausage and candy, the pickled herring, the happy children that tears the paper off hundred parcels each. The importance of christmas is lost and in exchange we have lies that makes marriages brake and lonely people collapse. That's the greatest lie, Melvyn, that Christmas must be perfect in every detail or it's waisted, and so we fill the manger with Calvin Klein and Virtual Reality glasses, rushing on like here was no tomorrow. Whatever we may call ourselves, we all need to slow down, feel , think and act in the best interest of our loved ones and the creation. We all need to be reminded of the light in the darkness and the need for peace .
    Most people long for this deep inside, the simple care and love, time well spent, long dinners, singing and talking by candlelight, quiet walks under the starlit sky. My heart celebrates the birth of my Saviour, my brain however tries to avoid all the glitter and shouting and tempting offers to make this Christmas the best ever!! However you think about Christmas, I still wish it to be bright, peaceful and merry for every living soul. Religion never relied on accuracy and definite facts, it's grounded on faith and a deep felt relation to the Other, greater than me. I'm sorry but there is no way of setting that argument straight, faith can't be inherited, studied or argued, it must be revealed and accepted as the truth that carries my very existence.
    Newgrange is an exciting place and the skill of those who built it is astounding for sure. I know you have a heart for love, respect and understanding among people, Mel, and that celebrating the return of light can actually inhence that feeling in people. We may call it different things, but we do agree on that!! Light and peace be upon you, dear Heron!! And upon all your friends here.

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  14. Dear FT thank you for your considered thoughts on the subject of christmas.

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